McCain made his national security leadership pitch well, though he was kind of dogged about it. I suppose they are all tired. He got some sniping against Mitt flipping positions, but I have to say McCain has changed positions as well after some thought. Immigration being one, the Bush tax cut being another. And I would certainly welcome it, as would most Republicans if he admitted campaign finance "reform" was a mistake.
So who knows? I don't know if Mitt did well enough to overtake McCain, but independents going for Obama may do the trick. Apparently they are 44% of NH voters.
Full postat BackyardConservative, including the Dems' debate.
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This site has the replay of the moment Mr. Huckabee tries to bend Mitt's words regarding US troop withdrawl "timetable".
http://ktracy.com/?p=755
I recall Mr. Romney being asked about a timetable! Up to the time he was asked about a timetable, he was against the liberal timetable issue. Numerous democrats were calling for a timetable and it was a liberal "cowardly issue" in the context of two other items. 1) The democrats wanted to get out of Iraq asap because they felt they did not want the war on their hands if they were in control of the WH (and congress too). 2) The democrat mantra that the surge wasn't working during that period was popular by a lot of Americans via polls. The democrats were trying to get a public consensus on the issue as just another strategy of pressure on the president. Another political ploy for their purposes. Yet republicans were ticked at this ploy because it emboldend Al Qaida and the insurgents in Iraq.This placed our soldiers and the supportive Iraqi people in greater danger.
The very smart guy that Romney is considered a DIFFERENT KIND OF TIMETABLE. Romney, like other republicans who stated that 1)we didn't want our enemies to know our plans openly, giving them a strategic advantage. 2) If an ABSOLUTE date for withdrawl came, our leaving would be seen as a surrender. This would be demoralizing to the Iraqi people and embolden the insurgents at the time of our leaving. We'd be leaving them in an irresponsible and deadly situation.
There was also debate in congress about whether the Iraqi leaders were doing enough to carry their responsibility in eventually being able to take full control out of the hands of US military. Now, you have to understand that Mr. Romney is a high powered businessman with deadlines (like timetables) and goals for the successful accomplishment of objectives.
(By the way, Romney has averaged 113% return on investment each and every year that he lead Bain Capital--14 years straight! How'd you like a legend [in his industry] like that managing your investment?)
As such, he is stating that a hidden goal or timetable may be appropriate for the Iraqi leadership (to obviously be better at meeting their and US's objectives more responsibly!) Romney's comments were the only ones of its kind-NOBODY challanged that wisdom-nobody. At that time with deadline pressure being discussed, the Iraqi leaders and people were stressing out about this kind of talk in our US politics. Nobody had said anything like that to defuse the tension, but ROMNEY. Listen to the video again. The questioner asked about timetables on US troop withdrawl, Romney talked about "timetables and milestones" for the president and prime minister of Iraq associated with their duties and responsibilities.
As such, Mr. Romney did not refer to any US troop exiting timetable ever!!
It is amazing how deceitful people can be with the use of the passage of time and the context of the political climate as the specifics fade from our minds. Does anyone suppose that could also be the "tool" of those that would have you believe that Mr. Romney is a flip-Flopper"? Do some research, you'll find the facts have been explained by dozens of people. Yet the liberal media and others choose to manipulate the general public with the "tool" of "passage of time and context" (against our ability to recall) to people who really don't like to do their own due diligence of the facts.
Is there anybody else out there who can think of other manipulations? Send some in to this great site. Examples:"Christian leader" insinuates (and you're not). "A religious test..." Article 6 US Constitution. Anyone who drops the line, "devil and Jesus are brothers" hoax are suggesting a very obvious failure to meet a religious test too.
An honest and exceedingly competent man would bring great dividends to our investment of study time for a POTUS and then, our vote. It's Mitt Romney--his life and stories are the metal great presidents are made of!!!
That was in 2002 of course . . . now McCain spends most of his limited advertising dollars on TV ads in NH that call Romney "a phony." Something's inconsistent there, eh?
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In tonight's debate Mike Huckabee accused Romney of not supporting the troop surge when he did: "I supported the president in the war before you did. I supported the surge when you didn't."
Transcript:
One Year Ago, Gov. Huckabee Did Not Offer His Support For The Surge:
MSNBC's NORAH O'DONNELL: "We have a Rudy Giuliani, who supports the president's plan on Iraq. We have Governor Mitt Romney, who also supports a troop surge. How are you different from any of those candidates."
HUCKABEE: "Well, I'm not sure that I support the troop surge, if that surge has to come from our Guard and Reserve troops, which have really been overly stretched."
Huck's a freakin LIAR. He proves it once again.
Want to revise that critique of Romney Gov. Huckabee?
This guy has no shame (but his fawning masses of evangelicals will give him a pass on this too, I'm sure).
Jeff Fuller
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I was unable to watch the debate tonight, so I must ask how Romney responded to Huckabee's claim on the surge?
If Romney did not have a counterpunch, I have to blame Romney for lack of preparation and response just as much as I blame Huckabee for his lie.
I am a diehard Romney supporter, but I am growing frustrated by his lack of firepower in response to the dirty attacks against his character and the lies about his record. He should not stand for such attacks, and when an opponent lies in a debate on a topic like the surge, where Romney can point to Huck's clear hesitation on the surge at the same time Romney issued a press release in favor of the surge, Romney needs to be prepared with the cold, hard facts, and he needs to unleash them.
If he did not do so tonight, the damage to his image in voters minds is his own fault. He seems like a deer in the headlights sometimes when hit with broadsides from his opponents. Either that or way, way too restrained.
Freakin' LIAR is right. Glad he kept his yappa shut a large portion of tonight's debate so I could relax a little. When he's not singin' Kumbaya, he might well be-a-prevaricantin'. This is a rude post so I'll go anonymous.
As I surveyed the campaign coverage of post-Iowa, mid-Wyoming, and pre-New Hampshire I found pretty much a mixed bag. Nobody really knows what’s going to happen, but everyone’s willing to hazard a guess.
Then I happened upon Michael Medved’s latest Townhall column and I started to get just a little miffed. I don’t really have an opinion on Medved – I’ve never really listened to his show, I don’t read his stuff and my only exposure to him has been via Blogfather Hugh’s radio show. Medved has now come out as a McCain backer, but his latest diatribe will most likely find its way to Team Huck for distribution.
Medved would have you believe there is no anti-Mormon bigotry behind Huck’s success in Iowa and in other evangelical heavy states. I’m not going to take Medved’s data apart here, simply because its not necessary to prove my point. I’d simply like to pose a question which turn’s Medved’s logic on it’s head:
But for religion, where would the race stand today?
But for religion, Mike Huckabee would be lagging back in single digit polling no matter what state he ran in. He’d be rightly labeled as a populist tax and spend governor of a state that – were it not for its alphabetical ranking – most Americans would never have heard about. His attitude toward and record on crime – demonstrated by his seemingly endless string of pardons – would subject him to an endless barrage of questions and commentary which would subsequently consign his campaign to the Dukakis Memorial Dust Bin. His Carter-esque foreign policy ideas would lead most responsible Republicans to run screaming from the room – to say nothing of his economic ideals which appeal to the masses but portend fiscal danger and disaster should they ever actually be implemented.
So what, pray tell, is Huck’s appeal? He plays the religion card and manages to convince some Iowans that he’s one of them. He brands himself as the “Christian Leader” thereby calling into question the religiosity of every other candidate – a not-at-all veiled jab at Mitt Romney. He then takes an even less-veiled broadside at Mitt specifically and Mormonism in general with his throwaway line to the New York Times Magazine specifically designed to put religious and not political differences on the front page – again.
While Huck may have apologized for that insult, and Mitt may have accepted said apology, the intent was clear. No, I don’t buy Huck’s explanation and I don’t accept his apology. After so many years at the pulpit, Huck knew exactly what he was saying and the publicity and religious furor it would generate. Huck’s “apology” is a bout as valid as Typhoid Mary’s would have been weeks after she came to town.
In short, but for religion, Huck would already be an also-ran.
On the other side of the spectrum you find Mitt Romney. Here is an exceptionally accomplished man – by any yardstick you choose to measure him. He has succeeded at nearly everything he’s ever even thought of attempting – be it professional, personal, or political. When the chips were down and conventional wisdom said it couldn’t be done, somebody called Mitt and the impossible got done.
Mitt has made over a quarter-billion dollars for himself, and untold billions for others in the private sector. Unlike any other candidate, he has created and saved untold millions of jobs for Americans. He enjoys new challenges, so he took it upon himself to save the 2002 Olympics and then serve his state. Having given Uncle Ted the race of his life and not being stymied by defeat he took a shot at the Governor’s chair and turned a state around. Most people would think Mitt had done enough and deserved a well earned early retirement.
In any other universe, Mitt would be so far beyond any other candidate – Democrat or Republican – this race would all but be over. He personifies the all American family man – married to the same woman for nearly four decades with five strapping sons all successful on their own merits. Norman Rockwell couldn’t have painted a better picture of a presidential candidate.
And yes, in case you were wondering, my picture does include all Mitt’s rightward shifts on the issues he takes hammers on. It wouldn’t matter – and in reality it doesn’t matter.
But for religion, Mitt would all but be sworn in. Were he Baptist, Presbyterian, Unitarian, Catholic, or Methodist the only questions in this campaign would be aimed at policy. But Mitt is Mormon, and evidently that changes the rules set down by over 200 years of American political tradition.
Were there no Mormon Question, the media might have to focus on issues that really matter rather than the actual location of the Garden of Eden or the actions of Mitt’s long dead relatives. They might actually have to work for a decent newsworthy story.
No matter what Mr. Medved claims, there is an undercurrent of religious bigotry which has and will continue to dog the Romney campaign. Bear in mind with the exception of the occasional reference to “faith”, Mitt has been fairly neutral on the subject of religion. He’s gone to great lengths to avoid bringing religion into a race for a secular office. Never the less, Mitt’s opponents and their surrogates seem to revel in reverting to religion at every opportunity.
What proof do I have of this undercurrent? I won’t bother pointing you to the surrogate blogs filled with a never ending diatribe of combined anti-Mitt and anti-Mormonism. I’ll just point you to Mike Huckabee’s officially sanctioned blog. What you’ll find there is just one example of many I could point you in what is fast becoming little more than a cesspool of anti-Morminism. Spare me the “Huck isn’t responsible for comments” excuse. It’s got his name on it, he’s responsible for it.
I’m not going so far as to blame all the woes of Team Mitt on religious bigotry – I’m not quite that naïve. What I am saying is that Mitt has one hurdle the other candidates are free to bypass – and it makes this campaign race much like Mitt having to run100 yard dash in knee-deep water while his opponents sprint down the track.
Even with that obstacle, Mitt is still running neck and neck with them.
I have been on top of this this issue TrustMitt.org
Shazam, Iowa results are proof positive that inbreeding and frigid temperatures yield irrational decisions. Despite Huckabee’s liberal record, Gomer Pyle charisma, and hate mongering against Mormonism, Huckabee pulls out a victory. Since Huck has no chance of beating Obama in a national election, the people have spoken and they would rather tear The Republican Party up then vote for a viable candidate. Thanks Iowa for splitting the party between social and economic conservatives, leaving us with McCain (who has no money to run a campaign) right before one of the most difficult presidential elections in recent history. If Mitt loses in New Hampshire and Michigan due to the blow in Iowa I will be obligated to vote for Obama in retaliation for Iowa's bigotry. TrustMitt.org
So "The Economy" constantly ranks up there among the top issues/concerns among voters of BOTH parties. With the Iraq issue being far less polarizing of late, the Economy, Illegal Immigration, and Healthcare look to be the key issues for the general election. Additionally, this New Hampshire Fox News Poll last month had the Economy and Illegal Immigration as the two most important issues to GOP voters with the Economy being by far the most important issue.
Additionally, unlike many issues listed, the status of the economy is something that touches EVERY American in some real and powerful way (as opposed to Iraq, or abortion, or foreign policy, or those without healthcare insurance).
SALEM, N.H. -- John McCain, who happily volunteers he doesn't know much about economics . . .
Later in the piece:
McCain stood before a line graph showing the increase of the alternative-minimum tax, a low-budget campaign's alternative to the PowerPoint presentation Mitt Romney uses when talking about economic policy, a subject McCain has said he feels he is unknowledgeable and that filling the void would be a priority when selecting a vice-presidential nominee.
So McCain wants to bolster the ticket because he's weak on the #1 issue and at a time that recession is a real concern? Sounds scary to me.
Yet further:
Like Mike Huckabee, who joked recently that he "may not be the expert that some people are on foreign policy, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night," McCain suggested to reporters Monday that American consumer culture offered a short cut to expertise. "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," McCain said. "I've got Greenspan's book."
Sorry John, but if you haven't gotten a grasp of economic issues after 71 years of life, and after 3+ decades in politics, something tells me that you're not ever going to "get it" . . . even if Greenspan's book is really good.
If we really are headed toward recession in the next few months, do we really want John McCain as our nominee to put up against Hillary or Obama? I think we have much better options to have at the TOP of the ticket.
Jeff Fuller
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McCain better let us know who this super-d-duper VP is that he has in mind because they are going to have to be someone who will be great in the field of economics, someone with the essence of youth and viger on their side, and someone who will be ready to pick up the mantel of the presidency in four years. On the all of these things we might as well skip McCain and vote for the VP. Could he be talking about our guy? Sadly he is but he does not know it.
McCain is a bit of a hypocrite calling Romney out on his foreign policy statements but admits he's a slacker on the economy. The economy is emerging as the number one issue so this doesn't help McCain and should help Mitt. Mitt's biggest problem is the media waiting in the weeds to take a sigle statement and ambushing him on it.
CASPER, Wyo. — Mitt Romney’s attention to Wyoming paid off Saturday as he won most of the 12 presidential delegates at stake in the state’s Republican county conventions.
The former Massachusetts governor won six of the first eight to be selected Saturday. Fred Thompson and California Rep. Duncan Hunter, who both also visited Wyoming, won one apiece, meaning no other candidate could beat Romney.
This makes me feel a little better; provided Governor Romney takes first or second in NH, the whole Iowa thing will be well on its way to having no significance.
I am happy for the win, but a little surprised. Having lived in that neck of the woods for a while, I am very aware of a large Evangelical and Born-Again population. Perhaps they didn't organize like they did in Iowa?
CASPER, Wyo. - Mitt Romney grabbed the early lead in Wyoming's Republican caucuses Saturday as the state had its brief moment in the political spotlight sandwiched between attention-getting contests in Iowa and New Hampshire.
The former Massachusetts governor gained the first four delegates while California Rep. Duncan Hunter won a fifth.
Romney easily led the overall vote with more than 50 percent. Hunter was second with 21 percent and Fred Thompson, who hadn't won any delegates, was third with 17 percent. Results were expected throughout the day.
Defending His Amnesty Bill, Sen. McCain Lost His Temper And "Screamed, 'F*ck You!' At Texas Sen. John Cornyn" (R-TX). "Presidential hopeful John McCain - who has been dogged for years by questions about his volcanic temper - erupted in an angry, profanity-laced tirade at a fellow Republican senator, sources told The Post yesterday. In a heated dispute over immigration-law overhaul, McCain screamed, 'F--- you!' at Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who had been raising concerns about the legislation. 'This is chickens---stuff,' McCain snapped at Cornyn, according to several people in the room off the Senate floor Thursday. 'You've always been against this bill, and you're just trying to derail it.'" (Charles Hurt, "Raising McCain," New York Post, 5/19/07)
In 2000, Sen. McCain Ran An Attack Ad Comparing Then-Gov. George W. Bush To Bill Clinton. SEN. MCCAIN: "I guess it was bound to happen. Governor Bush's campaign is getting desperate, with a negative ad about me. The fact is, I'll use the surplus money to fix Social Security, cut your taxes and pay down the debt. Governor Bush uses all of the surplus for tax cuts, with not one new penny for Social Security or the debt. His ad twists the truth like Clinton. We're all pretty tired of that. As president, I'll be conservative and always tell you the truth. No matter what." (McCain 2000, Campaign Ad, 2/9/00; www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHoXkCprdL4)
Sen. McCain Repeatedly Called Sen. Pete Domenici (R-NM) An "A**hole", Causing A Fellow GOP Senator To Say, "I Didn't Want This Guy Anywhere Near A Trigger." "Why can't McCain win the votes of his own colleagues? To explain, a Republican senator tells this story: at a GOP meeting last fall, McCain erupted out of the blue at the respected Budget Committee chairman, Pete Domenici, saying, 'Only an a--hole would put together a budget like this.' Offended, Domenici stood up and gave a dignified, restrained speech about how in all his years in the Senate, through many heated debates, no one had ever called him that. Another senator might have taken the moment to check his temper. But McCain went on: 'I wouldn't call you an a--hole unless you really were an a--hole.' The Republican senator witnessing the scene had considered supporting McCain for president, but changed his mind. 'I decided,' the senator told Newsweek, 'I didn't want this guy anywhere near a trigger.'" (Evan Thomas, et al., "Senator Hothead," Newsweek, 2/21/00)
Sen. McCain Had A Heated Exchange With Sen. Charles Grassley (R-IA) And Called Him A "F*cking Jerk." "Senators are not used to having their intelligence or integrity challenged by another senator. 'Are you calling me stupid?' Sen. Chuck Grassley once inquired during a debate with McCain over the fate of the Vietnam MIAs, according to a source who was present. 'No,' replied McCain, 'I'm calling you a f---ing jerk!' (Grassley and McCain had no comment.)" (Evan Thomas, et al., "Senator Hothead," Newsweek, 2/21/00)
In 1995, Sen. McCain Had A "Scuffle" With 92-Year-Old Sen. Strom Thurmond (R-SC) On The Senate Floor. "In January 1995, McCain was midway through an opening statement at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing when chairman Strom Thurmond asked, 'Is the senator about through?' McCain glared at Thurmond, thanked him for his 'courtesy' (translation: buzz off), and continued on. McCain later confronted Thurmond on the Senate floor. A scuffle ensued, and the two didn't part friends." (Harry Jaffe, "Senator Hothead," The Washingtonian, 2/97)
Sen. McCain Accused Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Of The "Most Egregious Incident" Of Corruption He Had Seen In The Senate. "It escalated when McCain reiterated the charges Oct. 10 in a cross-examination, calling McConnell's actions the 'most egregious incident' demonstrating the appearance of corruption he has ever seen in his Senate career." (Amy Keller, "Attacks Escalate In Depositions," Roll Call, 10/21/02)
Sen. McCain Attacked Christian Leaders And Republicans In A Blistering Speech During The 2000 Campaign. MCCAIN: "Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore. … The political tactics of division and slander are not our values... They are corrupting influences on religion and politics, and those who practice them in the name of religion or in the name of the Republican Party or in the name of America shame our faith, our party and our country. Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance, whether they be Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton on the left, or Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell on the right." (Sen. John McCain, Remarks, Virginia Beach, VA, 2/28/00)
Sen. McCain Attacked Vice President Cheney. MCCAIN: "The president listened too much to the Vice President . . . Of course, the president bears the ultimate responsibility, but he was very badly served by both the Vice President and, most of all, the Secretary of Defense." (Roger Simon, "McCain Bashes Cheney Over Iraq Policy," The Politico, 1/24/07)
Celebrating His First Senate Election In 1986, Sen. McCain Screamed At And Harassed A Young Republican Volunteer. "It was election night 1986, and John McCain had just been elected to the U.S. Senate for the first time. Even so, he was not in a good mood. McCain was yelling at the top of his lungs and poking the chest of a young Republican volunteer who had set up a lectern that was too tall for the 5-foot-9 politician to be seen to advantage, according to a witness to the outburst. 'Here this poor guy is thinking he has done a good job, and he gets a new butt ripped because McCain didn't look good on television,' Jon Hinz told a reporter Thursday. At the time, Hinz was executive director of the Arizona Republican Party. … Hinz said McCain's treatment of the young campaign worker in 1986 troubled him for years. 'There were an awful lot of people in the room,' Hinz recalled. 'You'd have to stick cotton in your ears not to hear it. He (McCain) was screaming at him, and he was red in the face. It wasn't right, and I was very upset at him.'" (Kris Mayes and Charles Kelly, "Stories Surface On Senator's Demeanor," The Arizona Republic, 11/5/99)
Sen. McCain "Publicly Abused" Senator Richard Shelby (R-AL). "[McCain] noted his propensity for passion but insisted that he doesn't 'insult anybody or fly off the handle or anything like that.' This is, quite simply, hogwash. McCain often insults people and flies off the handle…. There have been the many times McCain has called reporters 'liars' and 'idiots' when they have had the audacity to ask him unpleasant, but pertinent, questions. McCain once… publicly abused Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama." (Editorial, "There's Something About McCain," The Austin American-Statesman, 1/24/07)
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Wow!!! A hot head like McCain is JUST who we need to be in charge of all our nukes, and to be the leader of the free world. Yahoo!!!! A nutcase in the oval office!!!
By Eric Dondero, crossposted from here with his permission.
In an interview with www.MainstreamLibertarian.com, New Hampshire State Rep. DJ Bettencourt just confirmed his endorsement of Mitt Romney for President. He had allowed his name to be placed on a List of NH Romney supporters two weeks ago. Now Bettencourt has fully backed up his previous name-listing with a full-fledged endorsement.
Rep. Bettencourt serves as Chairman of the New Hampshire Conservative Alliance, a group that includes strong Anti-Tax and libertarian-leaning Republicans. Bettencourt was strongly supported by the Republican Liberty Caucus, a libertarian group, in his election in 2006 to the Legislature.
Last summer Bettencourt was moderately supportive of John McCain for President. He had attended a couple McCain functions, and allowed the Campaign to list his name on McCain's Straight Talk Committee. He did caution them at the time that it did not constitute a full outright endorsement.
But McCain's pushing on immigration late last summer started to trouble him.
He also told ML that McCain's positions on economic issues such as taxes are less firm than Romney's, and that was part of the reason for his move away from McCain.
"For me, economic issues are most important. People have problems with Romney on social issues. They are of secondary importance to me personally. I think he is the only one with experience as a businessman and understands how it works," said Bettencourt.
Bettencourt also said that Romney was a "strong Fiscal Conservative," who was very good on tax issues. He mentioned his low tax record as Massachussetts Governor.
On the other candidates Bettencourt commented:
"No question Ron Paul serves my priorities on economics identically, but the problem is we need to get a candidate who has a chance to win."
On Giuliani, "Rudy is a guy whom economically we have agreement."
And on Huckabee, "He is not a friend of libertarian principles."
*Note - Representative Bettencourt will be a guest on a special edition of "Libertarian Politics Live" Pre-New Hampshire Primary, Monday night at 7:00 pm cst.
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