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Saturday, January 19, 2008
posted by Anne | 10:57 PM | permalink
Hey, via Instapundit, it's the Saturday drunkblogger, Vodkapundit--says it's a two man race--McCain-Romney. And who would want to argue with that?

Seriously, that's what it looks like.

The Huckster is done for. We have to knock Rudy off in Florida, then it's on to Super Tuesday.

But for tonight, we can congratulate Gov. Mitt Romney on his great win in Nevada, and his holding his own in South Carolina in such a tough field.
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I think such declarations are premature.
I believe that Romney wanted to win Nevada big (he did).
Generally wanted McCain to win S.C. (he did).
And wanted to finish strong in S.C. (I think he needed 3-5% more to say this happened).

All in all however I think today was a good day for Romney. McCain’s win means that McCain will fight with Giuliani in Florida and I think this will be good for Romney. Huck’s loss SHOULD mean that Huck is no longer considered a real contender (which he probably should not have been considered after NH or MI anyway), but I am afraid it will not. Fred is done, and I think he will be out before Florida.

I however think it is premature to declare this a 2 man race. .

First, Giuliani with his anemic support and 1? delegate will be competitive in Florida. If he wins Florida, he will declare (and the media will support) the idea that he is ready for a commanding performance on super Tueday.
Second, McCain is of course not out.
And Third, Huckabee, I believe, is content to continue to tear apart the Republican Party. I fear he will continue to run. I fear he will continue to get support from folks who care little about politics and solely about his religion. With this support he will attempt to “purchase” something from himself (or whatever values he espouses) which I hope is not a VP slot (actually I hope in Nov. Romney offers him a position as a congressional pastor or something where he can use his faith appropriately).

Florida I think will be an important test for Romney. It is certainly an important test from Giuliani. And, McCain is not the anointed one precisely because so much of the Republican Party considers him fatally flawed. Florida will be one more building block for his message, “Elect me with my flaws because I am good enough and can beat Hillary (or Barack).

My political fantasies involve a number of things.
1. Fred leaves without endorsing McCain or Giuliani. Better yet he endorses Mitt. And/or the majority of Thompson supporter fall in line with Romney after Thompson leaves.
2. Huckabee leaves or upwards of 80% of evangelicals recognize he is not a good choice and he ceases to be viable. Better yet, his departure results in a pre-Florida (or pre-Super Tuesday) endorsement from James Dobson for Romney. Remember Dobson declared all front runners (at the time Giuliani, McCain, and Thompson) unacceptable to him. Without Huck it would seem he and other religions conservative could through their support behind Romney (even as Romney emphasizes his economic strength and radical competence).
3. Giuliani, no longer by himself in Florida, comes in a distant third to Romney and McCain and decides to leave before Super Tuesday or is clearly not viable in any Super Tuesday primaries.
I think all of the above three things are reasonably possible.


Political negative scenarios:
1. Huck continues to Muck up this process by taking social conservatives away from real conservative candidates (like Romney after Thomson is gone). He does this so he can use whatever influence he has at the convention. Such a use will likely not go for Romney.
2. Thompson provides considerable support to McCain or Giuliani.
3. The media’s past hostility to Romney continues and this has an increasingly negative effect upon his campaign. I really think that Rush and Will and Novak and … will continue to rally around Romney (although Giuliani is not as unacceptable to them as McCain or Huck). But, the mainstream media has painted Romney negatively for those who pay only a little attention and I fear this could continue.


Romney was in Florida tonight. To me this indicates it is not time to celebrate the “3 gold medals” with the Nevada faithful, but rather time to work to make Nevada’s vote of confidence matter.
I intend to make calls (through Call@Home) to Florida some time in the future if it all possible. I see no cruise control button on the Mitt Mobile at this point in time.

Thanks, TOm



Huck's dangerous now becaue he's playing for the VP spot. That means he won't take McCain on directly.He'll continue to take pot shots at Romney to help McCain.Ed Rollins is blaming Thompson for his loss in SC. I agree. Thompson was McCain's hachet man and McCain's fingerprints wern't on it. When is illegal immigration going to have some teeth in this race. It seems a lot of people are voting for Mccain on electibility alone and that's a suicidal path for the GOP. We need clear differences between the Dems and McCain doesn't cut it there.My hope is Huck and Thompson supporters throw in with Romney and Guliani steals security votes from McCain.At the end of the day wouldn't mind seeing a Romney/ Guliani ticket which would be socially moderate and Rudi would give Romney security gravitas.




posted by Jeff Fuller | 8:32 PM | permalink
Check out this . . .

Dems Exit polling shows that 3% of those participating in the Democratic were Mormons.

I'm guessing NONE of them voted for Romney (sarcasm intended).

With voting totals around 115,000 in the Dem race (I saw that number on Fox News) that would come out to approximately 3500 LDS voters NOT voting for ROmney.

By contrast, 25% of the GOP caucus in NV that were Mormon with nearly 45,000 total GOP voters --- therefore around 11250 LDS voters and 94% of them were for Romney . . . but that means nearly 500 were not.

So, 4000 LDS in Nevada voted "Not for Romney" and 10,750 voted for Romney. That breaks down to 73% LDS for Romney and 27% LDS that were not for Romney. Not quite the absolutely robotic block-voting groups that many media outlets are trying to play up.

Interesting, eh?

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I love it when you talk dirty like that.

So, the way I see it, one more mess up and the MSM is finished. Done for. They should just withdraw from the news scene, those inauthentic pretenders.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 10:05 PM  


I think the lesson is, you can't have negative things coming out of your campaign about "Mormons", and expect to win their vote. Thompson has Cyndi Mostler, Huckabee has his website, and McCain has his mother’s comment on the news. Where else were they supposed to turn?



Chris Matthews is the worst violator. His snide remarks assume 100% LDS turnout and 100% LDS blind allegiance. He is a smart enough man to know the truth therefore I can only conclude he is lying to advance his party agenda. Yes, Chris Matthews is a Democrat. And Christ Matthews is a liar. And these are strong words where I come from. Apparently being a liar in the media is no big deal.

By Anonymous Mark VA, at January 20, 2008 1:55 PM  



posted by Nealie Ride | 7:12 PM | permalink


Thanks to Jeff Fuller for the link.

CNN Exit Polls suggest McCain will take 1st, Huck 2nd, and Mitt finishing with 3rd. Fred's close behind, however, in a split conservative race.

Go here to watch the delegate and overall numbers for SC.

Let's keep our fingers crossed.


Update: With 1% reporting (long way to go, obviously), McCain is way out in front and Mitt has a secure 3rd-place position (leads by 6%--18% to 12% ) over Fred.

What does this do to guaranteed-a-win Huckabee and 4th-place Fred?

Update II: With 39% reporting, Mitt is trailing Fred by 1400 votes. Our man may get 4th. It'll be close.
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Wow,bad news,it looks like just about all the demos favor Mccain. I think the media is holding back declaring the win for McCain to keep people tuned in.So far it looks like Romney has enough distance from Thompson to come in 3rd anyway.



No! Not McCain! :'(



I can already predict tomorrow. Romney will go on Fox news Sunday and announce a $250 billion stimulus plan.Part of it will be to allow folks over 65 working and not paying SS taxes. This will be spun as pandering to the old folks in Fla.



I've never been to South Carolina. But as of today they don't strike me as thinking people. Must be a dynamic there I'm not hip to. Even poor Giuliani getting spanked by Ron Paul.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 10:14 PM  


Somebody on another website said that Romney will have to make up a new kind of medal to describe placing 4th in the Confederacy. He suggested that Romney call it the Copper Medal. I would actually be pretty embarrassed if I were running for President and won in the Confederacy. Go Lincoln! Go Union!




posted by myclob | 5:36 PM | permalink

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Governor Mitt Romney and Florida

Can someone help me keep this Florida page updated?

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Is it FloridaForMitt.com that is needing help updating the website or MyManMitt.com?
I am a stay at home mom and would love to help. Thanks.

By Anonymous Darlene, at January 19, 2008 6:24 PM  


If you need writers for the Florida for Mitt blog I would help if you need it.



Hey Myclob!

I run the Florida For Romney blog....I made a link to view ALL THINGS FLORIDA at my site. Maybe there's something there for ya'!

http://floridaformitt.blogspot.com/search/label/Florida%27s%20campaign



Hunter drops out.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/hunter-exits-presidential-race/

"it's time to allow our volunteers and supporters to focus on the campaigns that remain viable"

Doesn't sound like he'll endorse anybody.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 7:08 PM  


Dear Dan and Darlene,
Please email me at jmccann@nova.edu and I will add you as contributors to http://floridaformitt.blogspot.com.
This invite goes to anybody else who wants to make a difference!




posted by Anne | 4:32 PM | permalink
Some anecdotes about the Huckster in reference to Fred's campaign at the Campaign Spot:

Talked to my Dad in Greenville this morning. He said that if local talk radio is any measure of voter sentiment, Fred is “surging.” There is great hostility on the Greenville/Spartanburg airwaves to both McCain and Huckabee. A number of talk radio callers are unhappy with Huckabee’s fried squirrel shtick, many of them complaining that it “makes us look like country bumpkins.”

Huckabee also may have committed a gaffe in a recent appearance at Clemson University. My Dad said it’s been reported that during his remarks there, Huckabee brought up the topic of the Confederate flag flying over the State House, which caused so much heartburn during the 2000 Campaign. Huckabee said something to the effect that, “if people came into our state and told us what to do with the flag, we’d tell ’em where to stick that poll.” If that’s accurate, he just succeeded in bringing up an issue most South Carolinians simply want to leave behind. My Dad added that some talk radio callers wanted to know why a Baptist minister was making such a crude suggestion.

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Word from the Corner that Mitt already started using the NV win in GOTV efforts in SC by mid-afternoon. Perhaps it will help a little. Great impressive victory.

I do agree however, with Matt Lewis (i think) Mitt should have stayed in NV and had proper victory party and speech tonight just win the SC coverage begins. Then go to Fl.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 5:19 PM  


Well it appears from some early exit polls, that Fred surge didn't occur. Huck and McCain are battling it out for the top spot.

Mitt and Fred for 3rd

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 5:46 PM  


Huck has shot himself in the foot all along by overplaying different cards. He had a natural southern advantage but blown it with the kook factor.Bringing the flag up brings out a huge cringe factor. Romney's showing there is pretty sad. Obviously he insulted the voters there by going to Nevada.




posted by Scott Allan | 3:10 PM | permalink



Now that's a decisive win. Conservativism is making a comeback. Romney leads the medal count. I will welcome all the Fred supporters with open arms after tonight in SC.

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Wow, who knew the Nevada electorate was over half Mormon! ;-)

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 3:59 PM  


With McCain duking it out against Ron Paul no less. Right on!

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 4:26 PM  


Agreed...Romney/Thompson 2008...Thompson's a good conservative and would make a great VP candidate for Mitt (and also a great tie-breaking vote in the Senate).

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 4:28 PM  


The media is so angry about Mitt's easy win in Nevada they can't even stay focused on SC.I imagine they are hoping for a McCain win there to keep their national hero narrative going but it sure has the feeling of a hollow victory without Mitt competing there.If nothing else I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Huck wins SC.That will knock McCain down in Fla. which is in a 4 way tie already. I'm hoping Mitt does well in the panhandle there,especially if Thompson drops out.




posted by Anne | 3:07 PM | permalink
Cool graphic with results from the Nevada GOP caucus site. They also have a link to county results if you're interested.

UPDATE: Mitt's victory message, via the Corner:
Today, the people of Nevada voted for change in Washington. For far too long, our leaders have promised to take the action necessary to build a stronger America, and still the people of Nevada and all across this country are waiting. Whether it is reforming health care, making America energy independent or securing the border, the American people have been promised much and are now ready for change.

The need for change is even more apparent today as our economy faces challenges both here at home and abroad. For decades, we have talked about the long-term economic challenges confronting our country but still the tax burden is too high, business is stifled by regulations and more money goes to defending against junk lawsuits than promoting research and innovation. Now, Washington must act and take the steps necessary to strengthen our economy. With a career spent turning around businesses, creating jobs and imposing fiscal discipline, I am ready to get my hands on Washington and turn it inside out.
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posted by Nealie Ride | 1:32 PM | permalink

Romney's western victory marked two straight successes, coming after a win in the Michigan primary earlier in the week that revived his campaign.


I wonder how this news might affect the vote in South Carolina. Any thoughts?

By the way, come on over to NY for Mitt and view a few new YouTube videos. One's entitled "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain."
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That was fast!

And the margin of victory will be huge.

Good job Mitt.

Let's see what happens in SC.

By Anonymous Joe Mama, at January 19, 2008 1:54 PM  


Nice visual! Where do I get details?

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 2:53 PM  


The margin of victory is outrageous lol. Yeah Mitt!!...Chuck Todd started the media narrative saying it looked like a bunch of rich Mormons that gave Mitt the victory lol.He also hinted that it would be a big deal if McCain beat Paul there.Mitt also got a lot of evangelical vote there,so much for their Mormon bias.



If you're looking for details, we've got lots at NY for Mitt:

http://nyformitt.blogspot.com/




posted by Anne | 12:17 PM | permalink
At Hot Air. Entire transcript at LA Times. Two clips.
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Gosh, he was good. I just don't get the people, Dennis Prager, for example (who, by the way, I love), who doesnt think Mitt connects well with people. He was warm, funny, transparent. Go Mitt!



I loved Mitt's response when Leno asked him whose head was bigger: Mitt's or Ted Kennedy's.

Mitt said they all three had big heads -- which is true!

Mitt Rocks!!!

By Anonymous bethtopaz, at January 19, 2008 8:10 PM  



posted by Anne | 12:04 PM | permalink
Mike Huckabee is autographing bibles now. Comments from Ann Marie at ElectRomney in 2008 on the pix and story in the NY Times.
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I think that's great and all, and for most candidates it wouldn't be a big deal, but the Huckster has set himself up for these things to be a focal point since he decided to run AS A BAPTIST MINISTER instead of as a candidate who just happens to be a Baptist minister.



Thanks for posting this - I linked to it on an anti-Huckabee Facebook group of about 2,500 people.

By Anonymous Anonymous, at January 19, 2008 3:09 PM  



posted by Kyle | 11:26 AM | permalink
Andru Blonquist, who runs SCforRomney.com, gives us the latest in South Carolina:

Here's what I see and hear from Greenville, SC.

First of all the "reality check" is that Romney is playing for third place, but anything could happen since some polling shows a 6% spread with up to 40% who say they could change their mind. Also, he got a good bump out of Michigan that might just sink Fred's campaign altogether if he beats Fred by more than a few percent (polling shows them neck and neck for third).

A majority of those not listing Mitt as their first choice, still have a positive perception of him, and could actually vote for him--especially if they saw him on Leno. In my opinion, going on Leno tonight was genius! Much more effective than if he had stayed in SC through Election Day.

As Jeff [Fuller of Iowans for Romney] pointed out earlier, most people here realize that the rules have changed this year and South Carolina probably won't pick the nominee as it has in the past. The most passionate folks here are the Fred Heads who are dying to keep him in the race. Very little passion towards Huckabee since the well-informed tend to be more passionate and the well-informed here know he's a fraud. Unfortunately, there's still a chance that the less-informed will still vote for him.

I helped set up for a Georgia group last night so the room would be ready for them and then I actually got a call from them today asking if I was still committed. They were planning on 2000 calls from the Greenville headquarters today--not a large number, but many have already been made this week. Most of the calls over the past week have been just to Romney supporters, or those leaning towards him to urge them to get-out and vote.

We got our first snow here on Thursday--canceling some of the campaign schedule and that was disappointing, but that might work to our favor on Saturday when the second snow of the season is expected.

In my opinion, low turnout favors Romney because his support numbers have been consistent over the past 2 - 3 months here while McCain and Huckabee have had a much more fickle support base and many of them are casual or less-passionate voters.

The fact of the matter here is that Romney's polling in SC shows similar numbers to what he had just prior to New Hampshire, but his subtle pulling out near the end has greatly reduced expectations and no one is even suggesting that he needs a win here. If he finishes second, it will be a victory for him.

Tagg Romney and Senator Jim DeMint also did a live studio interview on local talk radio today and came across very well. There was no sense of urgency or attacking other candidates, they simply presented a message about Governor Romney's qualifications and character and they made a pitch specifically to the undecided voter out there. It showed a lot of class and a sense of composure about where the campaign stands saying, "We realize that many of you are passionate about your candidate, but if you haven't made up your mind yet, we'd urge you to consider Governor Romney because he brings more to the table than anyone else when it comes to the most pressing issues facing us today--the economy".

Because South Carolina is a split winner-take-all state (meaning district delegates are WTA and then the at-large delegates are state-wide WTA), you could easily see Romney leaving here with no delegates, but he may pick up one or two here in the upstate.

One final note, the polls are open here until 7PM local time which is 4PM Nevada time and it sounds like we could have Nevada results as early as 1 or 2 PM local. Who knows, but maybe news of that here will have an added impact!

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